John Hinderaker: “Obama Had to Know”

“Obama Had To Know!” and are Ilhan Omar’s days numbered? John Hinderaker joins Dave to discuss this plus Trump’s health insurance reform. Find John at http://Powerlineblog.com and http://AmericanExperiment.org.

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There are 10 comments.

  1. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Great interview. I thought it was an interesting concept, that the Russia hoax that began a few days after the election debacle is an attempt by the Obama administration to cover up its long term abuse of the NSA’s 702 program, (the unmasking of US citizens caught on NSA intercepts) and Hillary’s email scandal. I believe that the Obama administration routinely abused these powers from the beginning of the second term, in 2012.

    I believe that not only were Donald Trump’s campaign spied on, but all republican candidates were spied on. That those who dared to debate the administration’s policy goals often found themselves targeted by the administrative state, from the EPA, to OSHA – suddenly every federal inspector possible became a recurring characters. Especially around the more controversial programs, like the Iran Deal, Leak investigations.

    I think this a perfectly normal progression of corruption for leftists, who routinely integrate their partisan interests into the the governments they’re elected to. Look at the machine politics of the big cities, if there is ever a republican mayor of any of these cities – I’ll bet they’ll have to hire forensic accountants just to figure out the payroll.

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    • June 24, 2019, at 10:54 PM PDT
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  2. Rightfromthestart Coolidge

    Agree totally with Occupants’s comment, what frightens me is that these things are all too complicated for the people who only read the headlines especially if the press refuses to clarify matters and in fact tries to obfuscate. I remember hearing of a woman decades ago who didn’t like Nixon because ‘he was involved in that Alger Hiss thing’ likewise the unraveling of all the Obama administrations machinations in 2016 will just come off as ‘Trump blah blah blah blah Russia’ 

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    • June 25, 2019, at 5:01 AM PDT
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  3. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Agree totally with Occupants’s comment, what frightens me is that these things are all too complicated for the people who only read the headlines especially if the press refuses to clarify matters and in fact tries to obfuscate. I remember hearing of a woman decades ago who didn’t like Nixon because ‘he was involved in that Alger Hiss thing’ likewise the unraveling of all the Obama administrations machinations in 2016 will just come off as ‘Trump blah blah blah blah Russia’

    And therein lies the problem. This is a major whodunit with a huge cast of characters. Those of us with above average IQs who have followed it closely know who the bad guys are in general, but I’m not sure even we don’t understand the whole plot. One thing we do know is the plot began with higher ups in the Obama administration determined to undermine the election. It’s a crying out loud shame. ?

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    • June 25, 2019, at 4:28 PM PDT
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  4. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Agree totally with Occupants’s comment, what frightens me is that these things are all too complicated for the people who only read the headlines especially if the press refuses to clarify matters and in fact tries to obfuscate. I remember hearing of a woman decades ago who didn’t like Nixon because ‘he was involved in that Alger Hiss thing’ likewise the unraveling of all the Obama administrations machinations in 2016 will just come off as ‘Trump blah blah blah blah Russia’

    And therein lies the problem. This is a major whodunit with a huge cast of characters. Those of us with above average IQs who have followed it closely know who the bad guys are in general, but I’m not sure even we don’t understand the whole plot. One thing we do know is the plot began with higher ups in the Obama administration determined to undermine the election. It’s a crying out loud shame. ?

    This is the problem with the national security apparatus in the US, its just so large that they must conflict and fumble into each other all the time. Just one time I wanted an interviewer to counter the claim “17 intelligence agencies believe x” with a “Can you name them? All 17.” I think to get 17 intelligence agencies you have to go as far afield as the Coast Guard.

    Its more than a crying shame, its sedition, and should be prosecuted. Not because its important that anyone goes to jail for these things. (although some do need too) but so the next time there is a democratic administration these people are disqualified from holding office or accessing classified information. Cripple the Clinton/Obama wings of the democrat party by tossing all the minions under the bus.

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    • June 26, 2019, at 1:31 AM PDT
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  5. Taras Coolidge

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Agree totally with Occupants’s comment, what frightens me is that these things are all too complicated for the people who only read the headlines especially if the press refuses to clarify matters and in fact tries to obfuscate. I remember hearing of a woman decades ago who didn’t like Nixon because ‘he was involved in that Alger Hiss thing’ likewise the unraveling of all the Obama administrations machinations in 2016 will just come off as ‘Trump blah blah blah blah Russia’

    And therein lies the problem. This is a major whodunit with a huge cast of characters. Those of us with above average IQs who have followed it closely know who the bad guys are in general, but I’m not sure even we don’t understand the whole plot. One thing we do know is the plot began with higher ups in the Obama administration determined to undermine the election. It’s a crying out loud shame. ?

    This is the problem with the national security apparatus in the US, its just so large that they must conflict and fumble into each other all the time. Just one time I wanted an interviewer to counter the claim “17 intelligence agencies believe x” with a “Can you name them? All 17.” I think to get 17 intelligence agencies you have to go as far afield as the Coast Guard.

    Its more than a crying shame, its sedition, and should be prosecuted. Not because its important that anyone goes to jail for these things. (although some do need too) but so the next time there is a democratic administration these people are disqualified from holding office or accessing classified information. Cripple the Clinton/Obama wings of the democrat party by tossing all the minions under the bus.

    Remember, if there is a Democrat or a RINO (or just an honest fool like Ken Starr) anywhere in the decision loop, the Democrat always gets off. Don’t hold your breath.

    One thing that might be improved, however, is how the conservative media behave. Very rarely do they hold to account the individual bad, biased journalists who misreported a particular story, instead vaguely referring to bias in the liberal media. (National Review is constantly guilty of this.)

    For conservatives, this merely reinforces something they already know; while liberal journalists find it easy to shed this kind of criticism. Which, after all, amounts to saying they’re on the same page as their colleagues: obviously the bias exists only in the eyes of the conservative critics, they reassure themselves. 

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    • June 26, 2019, at 6:39 AM PDT
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  6. Taras Coolidge

    On Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, and the absolute refusal of the local newspaper to cover her proliferating scandals:

    Conservatives should put together a full page ad recounting both the scandals and that newspaper’s failure to cover the story, and try to place it in that same newspaper.

    If the newspaper prints it, that’s good; if they refuse to print it, perhaps even better.

    P.S.: I gather that in Somalia, as in many other sh**hole (i.e.,“Third World”) countries with hopelessly corrupt and vicious governments, it is the custom to try to swindle the government whenever you can, simply as a matter of survival. Among Somali immigrants to the US, this usually takes the form of gaming or defrauding the welfare system, filling out government forms “as needed”. Ilhan Omar’s various frauds appear to fit this pattern.

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    • June 26, 2019, at 7:04 AM PDT
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  7. RufusRJones Member

    Taras (View Comment):

    P.S.: I gather that in Somalia, as in many other sh**hole (i.e.,“Third World”) countries with hopelessly corrupt and vicious governments, it is the custom to try to swindle the government whenever you can, simply as a matter of survival. Among Somali immigrants to the US, this usually takes the form of gaming or defrauding the welfare system, filling out government forms “as needed”. Ilhan Omar’s various frauds appear to fit this pattern.

    I had a long talk with the guy from Ethiopia and he said basically the same thing. Minnesota has 25,000 Ethiopians and they are never in the news. Excellent citizens. It’s a completely different civic culture even though the countries are right next to each other. He was very unhappy about all of this. 

    I live in Omar’s district. She comes from a crappy, low trust society, so I think she primarily sees everything as a racket. I think her political speech reflects that.

    Secondarily she is a socialist and an Islamist. MN CD5 is very big on socialism, etc. so they lover her. I also think CAIR has guaranteed her a job so she can just raise as much hell as possible to move the Overton window.

     

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    • June 26, 2019, at 7:20 AM PDT
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  8. Taras Coolidge

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    P.S.: I gather that in Somalia, as in many other sh**hole (i.e.,“Third World”) countries with hopelessly corrupt and vicious governments, it is the custom to try to swindle the government whenever you can, simply as a matter of survival. Among Somali immigrants to the US, this usually takes the form of gaming or defrauding the welfare system, filling out government forms “as needed”. Ilhan Omar’s various frauds appear to fit this pattern.

    I had a long talk with the guy from Ethiopia and he said basically the same thing. Minnesota has 25,000 Ethiopians and they are never in the news. Excellent citizens. It’s a completely different civic culture even though the countries are right next to each other. He was very unhappy about all of this.

    I live in Omar’s district. She comes from a crappy, low trust society, so I think she primarily sees everything as a racket. I think her political speech reflects that.

    Secondarily she is a socialist and an Islamist. MN CD5 is very big on socialism, etc. so they lover her. I also think CAIR has guaranteed her a job so she can just raise as much hell as possible to move the Overton window.

     

    “She comes from a crappy, low trust society, so I think she primarily sees everything as a racket.” Dead on!

    The religion of progressivism does not recognize cultural differences, if they make a non-Western culture look bad. 

    In Kim Barker’s The Taliban Shuffle (very loosely adapted into the Tina Fey vehicle, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot) Barker describes her years in the Middle East as a journalist. In Afghanistan and Iraq, powerful politicians offered her marriage (four wives, remember); in Pakistan, and only in Pakistan, men constantly grabbed her ass. Why the difference? I have no idea. 

    The late — and reluctant — reports of the Rotherham rape scandal, in which about 1400 underage white girls were sexually exploited, would often refer to the exploiters as Asians or South Asians. Actually it was mostly Pakistanis there, too. Cultural differences again.

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    • June 26, 2019, at 7:46 AM PDT
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  9. RufusRJones Member

    In Minnesota, Somalis are in the news every other month, like clockwork. You never hear a bad thing about Ethiopians. Never, ever. It is completely illegal to adjust immigration rates to reflect that. It’s completely nuts.

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    • June 26, 2019, at 7:53 AM PDT
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  10. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Taras (View Comment)

    Remember, if there is a Democrat or a RINO (or just an honest fool like Ken Starr) anywhere in the decision loop, the Democrat always gets off. Don’t hold your breath.

    One thing that might be improved, however, is how the conservative media behave. Very rarely do they hold to account the individual bad, biased journalists who misreported a particular story, instead vaguely referring to bias in the liberal media. (National Review is constantly guilty of this.)

    For conservatives, this merely reinforces something they already know; while liberal journalists find it easy to shed this kind of criticism. Which, after all, amounts to saying they’re on the same page as their colleagues: obviously the bias exists only in the eyes of the conservative critics, they reassure themselves.

    I always hope for honesty in the administration of justice, if there are honest people prosecuting and judging these crimes, I think they’ll be convicted, fools or not. Provided they stick to the statutory standards of conduct. For example Hillary got off the email scandal, because she didnt mean it, the statutory standard is negligence, not motive. She was clearly (and those around her) where negligent. As I say, its not important these minions go to jail, it is vital that they’re never given a position of power or access to classified information.

    • #10
    • June 26, 2019, at 4:05 PM PDT
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