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CNN reports that “President Trump dined on ice cream as news of the air strike broke.”

Meanwhile, we still don’t know what President Obama was enjoying for dinner as our Ambassador and aides died in Benghazi.

Oh well.

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There are 29 comments.

  1. Hoyacon Member

    More shallow reporting from CNN. No word on what flavor?

    I guess we could call this a literal scoop, however.

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    • January 3, 2020, at 2:37 PM PST
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  2. Concretevol Thatcher

    Journalism alive and well…..saw that tweet as well. Check out Charlie Cooke’s piece on NRO ripping CNN.

    • #2
    • January 3, 2020, at 2:43 PM PST
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  3. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    Henry Racette: Meanwhile, we still don’t know what President Obama was enjoying for dinner as our Ambassador and aides died in Benghazi.

    Trick question. Obama had time for 3 meals. 

    • #3
    • January 3, 2020, at 2:57 PM PST
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  4. Gary Robbins Reagan

    I see a trend. If memory serves, Trump was eating with Chinese General Secretary Xi Jinping at Trump’s home of Mar-a-Lago when Syria was bombed for their use of chemical weapons. A coincidence? I don’t think so.

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    • January 3, 2020, at 3:02 PM PST
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  5. philo Member

    “dined”? Really?

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    • January 3, 2020, at 3:02 PM PST
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  6. Hoyacon Member

    philo (View Comment):

    “dined”? Really?

    Man, if only he’d broken out the vintage champagne.

     

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    • January 3, 2020, at 3:15 PM PST
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  7. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I see a trend. If memory serves, Trump was eating with Chinese General Secretary Xi Jinping at Trump’s home of Mar-a-Lago when Syria was bombed for their use of chemical weapons. A coincidence? I don’t think so.

    Apparently Trump was eating with Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy at the time. I am not sure of the link between Kevin McCarthy and Xi Jinging; perhaps someone else would be able to connect the dots. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/03/donald-trump-iran-soleimani-093371

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    • January 3, 2020, at 3:18 PM PST
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  8. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I see a trend. If memory serves, Trump was eating with Chinese General Secretary Xi Jinping at Trump’s home of Mar-a-Lago when Syria was bombed for their use of chemical weapons. A coincidence? I don’t think so.

    Apparently Trump was eating with Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy at the time. I am not sure of the link between Kevin McCarthy and Xi Jinging; perhaps someone else would be able to connect the dots. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/03/donald-trump-iran-soleimani-093371

    Culinary misdirection. 

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    • January 3, 2020, at 3:23 PM PST
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  9. philo Member

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    “dined”? Really?

    Man, if only he’d broken out the vintage champagne.

    How about “snacked” or, if you must, “supped”? Either would be more accurate than “dined”.

    Forget the champagne, I want to see photos of him and his guests coloring pictures of [Muhammad] on their paper place-settings while snacking on the ice-cream. Let the idiot party draft up another irrelevant Article of Impeachment over that.

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    • January 3, 2020, at 3:36 PM PST
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  10. Hoyacon Member

    On a serious note (yikes!), we still don’t know where Obama was during Benghazi, do we?

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    • January 3, 2020, at 3:44 PM PST
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  11. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    On a serious note (yikes!), we still don’t know where Obama was during Benghazi, do we?

    I’m sure that we do, because President Obama promised us that we would know everything as soon as he knew everything. And I’m sure that, by now, we must know everything.

    No, I have no clue where he was, or what he was doing.

    Nor, most critically, what he was eating.

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    • January 3, 2020, at 3:49 PM PST
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  12. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    [ Dear Editor, I liked my original title better. I was going for understated irony. ]

    • #12
    • January 3, 2020, at 4:02 PM PST
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  13. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    [ Dear Editor, I liked my original title better. I was going for understated irony. ]

    Yea me too! “Journalism” doesn’t attract readers.

    • #13
    • January 3, 2020, at 6:08 PM PST
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  14. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    [ Dear Editor, I liked my original title better. I was going for understated irony. ]

    Yea me too! “Journalism” doesn’t attract readers.

    “Journalism” IS my original title. I changed it back from the more descriptive title to which it had been changed. 

    ;)

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    • January 3, 2020, at 6:09 PM PST
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  15. The Reticulator Member

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    [ Dear Editor, I liked my original title better. I was going for understated irony. ]

    Yea me too! “Journalism” doesn’t attract readers.

    “Journalism” IS my original title. I changed it back from the more descriptive title to which it had been changed.

    ;)

    I approve of your choice. I saw the change to a lengthier title and thought somebody had convinced you to make it boring. 

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    • January 3, 2020, at 6:49 PM PST
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  16. Al French, poor excuse for a p… Member

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    More shallow reporting from CNN. No word on what flavor?

    Iraqi Road.

     

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    • January 3, 2020, at 7:49 PM PST
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  17. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    Al French, poor excuse for a p… (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    More shallow reporting from CNN. No word on what flavor?

    Iraqi Road.

     

    This could be a fun game. I wish I knew more than the three cardinal flavors. 

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    • January 3, 2020, at 7:52 PM PST
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  18. James Lileks Contributor

    It’s intended to show him as juvenile and indifferent to suffering. As a detail in a long story, it’s interesting; tweeted out as an IMPORTANT THING it’s more revelatory about whoever runs the CNN Twitter feed. 

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    • January 3, 2020, at 10:29 PM PST
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  19. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    It’s intended to show him as juvenile and indifferent to suffering. As a detail in a long story, it’s interesting; tweeted out as an IMPORTANT THING it’s more revelatory about whoever runs the CNN Twitter feed.

    I’m sure that’s exactly the point. And, to be honest, I have to admit that I did something similar when I picked on President Obama’s frequent golf excursions as a sign of his unseriousness — though eating ice cream doesn’t seem quite the dereliction of duty that a day on the links represented.

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    • January 3, 2020, at 11:28 PM PST
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  20. Stad Thatcher

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    A coincidence? I don’t think so.

    Irrelevant.

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    • January 4, 2020, at 6:16 AM PST
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  21. Stad Thatcher

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    On a serious note (yikes!), we still don’t know where Obama was during Benghazi, do we?

    Practicing his stutters for the next morning’s press conference . . .

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    • January 4, 2020, at 6:17 AM PST
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  22. The Reticulator Member

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    It’s intended to show him as juvenile and indifferent to suffering. As a detail in a long story, it’s interesting; tweeted out as an IMPORTANT THING it’s more revelatory about whoever runs the CNN Twitter feed.

    I’m sure that’s exactly the point. And, to be honest, I have to admit that I did something similar when I picked on President Obama’s frequent golf excursions as a sign of his unseriousness — though eating ice cream doesn’t seem quite the dereliction of duty that a day on the links represented.

    I would have liked President Obama more if he had taken a lot of long naps, like President Reagan did. But a problem is that he had more people to do bad things while he was asleep than Reagan did.

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    • January 4, 2020, at 6:37 AM PST
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  23. Marythefifth Member
    Marythefifth Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Golly! Do you think a president is unable to order a drone strike WHILE eating ice cream?

    Or do you think is aides would hesitate to inform Trump of the embassy attack until after he’d finished his ice cream? And how long would that take? Hours? Days?

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    • January 4, 2020, at 7:37 AM PST
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  24. Marythefifth Member
    Marythefifth Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    p.s. a 13-hour banana split.

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    • January 4, 2020, at 7:38 AM PST
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  25. Sweezle Member

    I love Ice Cream!

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    • January 4, 2020, at 12:54 PM PST
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  26. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    [ Dear Editor, I liked my original title better. I was going for understated irony. ]

    Yea me too! “Journalism” doesn’t attract readers.

    “Journalism” IS my original title. I changed it back from the more descriptive title to which it had been changed.

    ;)

    I approve of your choice. I saw the change to a lengthier title and thought somebody had convinced you to make it boring.

    No, but I’ve once again been overruled by management. Ah well.

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    • January 4, 2020, at 2:43 PM PST
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  27. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    Sweezle

    I love Ice Cream!

    Me too. Do you know what I really like about it? The way it tastes. CNN really should investigate why it is so yummy.

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    • January 4, 2020, at 3:35 PM PST
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  28. The Reticulator Member

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    [ Dear Editor, I liked my original title better. I was going for understated irony. ]

    Yea me too! “Journalism” doesn’t attract readers.

    “Journalism” IS my original title. I changed it back from the more descriptive title to which it had been changed.

    ;)

    I approve of your choice. I saw the change to a lengthier title and thought somebody had convinced you to make it boring.

    No, but I’ve once again been overruled by management. Ah well.

    That’s a weird edit, because you’re not comparing the eras. I thought it was only the headline writers of the MSM who didn’t feel a need to make the headlines align with the articles. 

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    • January 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM PST
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  29. Henry Racette Contributor
    Henry Racette

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    [ Dear Editor, I liked my original title better. I was going for understated irony. ]

    Yea me too! “Journalism” doesn’t attract readers.

    “Journalism” IS my original title. I changed it back from the more descriptive title to which it had been changed.

    ;)

    I approve of your choice. I saw the change to a lengthier title and thought somebody had convinced you to make it boring.

    No, but I’ve once again been overruled by management. Ah well.

    That’s a weird edit, because you’re not comparing the eras. I thought it was only the headline writers of the MSM who didn’t feel a need to make the headlines align with the articles.

    I think the change undermines my attempt at dry humor. But management was actually gracious enough to send me an email (probably because I kept undoing their change of my title ;) ), explaining their rationale. Basically, they think the page will be indexed better by the search engines if the title is more descriptive, and that it will be more eye-catching for human readers as well. (I think our friend @garyrobbins agrees on that last point as well.)

    They’re probably right, and, particularly after I’ve been so fussy about them doing things that I think would help pump up the Ricochet brand, picking on them for trying to do just that would be silly. Now if they’ll just give us those hit counts….

    ;)

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    • January 4, 2020, at 3:49 PM PST
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